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For the past few months, Poker Players Alliance Executive Director John Pappas has been running up the frequent flyer mileage.
With federal Internet poker legalization prospects seemingly at a standstill, Pappas focused efforts of the 1.2 million-member lobbying organization on various individual state legislative activities.
Debate over Internet gaming and online poker surfaced this year in California, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts.
Pappas is spending part of the weekend at the World Series of Poker in the organization’s booth inside the Rio’s Convention Center. He plans to discuss the various online gaming legalization efforts with the tournament’s attendees.
“We cut our lobbying spend in D.C. pretty dramatically,” Pappas said Friday. “There is no reason to spend a lot of money when the outcome is uncertain.”
But now, Internet gaming talk on Capitol Hill is once again heating up.
At least two pieces of Internet gaming legislation could be find their way to the floors of Congress before the July Fourth recess. Pappas, while hopeful there will be discussions, isn’t optimistic about the outcome.
“Congress has a lot of challenges, and having this issue rise to the top of things they tackle in the next 18 months is hard to believe,” Pappas said.
Rep. Peter King, R-NY, submitted legislation earlier this month that would legalize all forms of Internet wagering by establishing a federal licensing and regulatory system.
Meanwhile, Pappas said Rep. Joe Barton,. R-Texas, is expected to introduce online poker legislation — similar to a bill he sponsored in 2012 — by next week.
Pappas thought the King bill wouldn’t fly, primarily because it addresses gambling activities other than poker. The “permissiveness” of the bill was “excellent” from a policy perspective, he thought, but might entrench gambling expansion opponents.
Pappas, who has spent more than 14 years in Washington D.C. in both lobbying and political consulting, said a poker-only bill might be more palatable to federal lawmakers.
However, he is concerned state efforts could weaken Washington’s position on the issue.
“We favor a federal a solution,” Pappas said. “That is what the players want and that is what the (gaming) industry as a whole wants.”
Earlier this week, Las Vegas Sands Chairman Sheldon Adelson, in an opinion article on the Forbes-com website, advocated a federal ban of all online wagering activities. Pappas challenged many of Adelson’s points through his own commentary on the PocketFives-com website.
“He makes certain claims as if they were fact,” Pappas wrote. “However, there is no evidence whatsoever that the introduction of an online gaming regime would negatively affect the offline casino industry.”
The Poker Players Alliance is chaired by former Republican U.S. Senator Alfonse D’Amato of New York. The organization has state directors in most of the 50 states.
Nevada and New Jersey have both legalized Internet poker — New Jersey has legalized full-on Internet gaming.
Station Casinos-owned Ultimate Poker launched in Nevada on April 30, becoming the first regulated pay-to-play Internet poker website in the U.S. Other sites, including a World Series of Poker real money website, are waiting in the wings. New Jersey hopes to have its first online gaming websites operational by Thanksgiving.
Other states legalizing the activity could lessen any federal push.
“Once you get some of these bigger states, that are not viewed as a traditional gaming state, then momentum can build,” Pappas said. “There are those in Congress who are concerned about the expansion of gaming. Doing nothing, however, could lead to a bigger expansion of gaming.”
Pappas believes California and Pennsylvania could legalize Internet gaming by next year. If that happens, he said states would begin forming interstate compacts to pool players and share resources and revenues.
How the compacts would work, however, is still subject to debate.
“The real issues need to get sorted out,” Pappas said.
Poker players' official to discuss Web gaming legalization | Las Vegas Review-Journal
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“Uh, guys? Is this a problem?” Mazin’s roommate said when a banner popped up on PokerStars’s website, advising that games were no longer available in the United States. Mazin didn’t worry too much at first—he thought maybe PokerStars would have to change its domain to a .EU address. But on further inspection, they realized it wasn’t the domain, it was their physical location that was the problem. On that morning of April 15, 2011, also known as Black Friday, online poker players across America lost the capacity to make financial transactions at online poker sites. Professional players were suddenly left without a source of income. All of them, professional or not, were left without access to their online accounts, many of which held significant portions of their net worth.
Since then, many of those players have relocated to Toronto.
“I’ve been involved in the poker business for a long time, as a journalist and also as a consultant to the big companies, so anything that’s coming you tend to have at least some advance notice of it,” said Chris Tessaro, host of The Poker Show on Sportsnet Radio Fan590. This wasn’t the case with the United States government’s decision to charge the three biggest online poker sites (PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker/UltimateBet) with bank fraud, illegal gambling, and money laundering. “Nobody knew this was coming until it happened. Nobody knew. It was just an instant, hard slam lock down.”
The way Tessaro describes it, Black Friday resulted in war-like pandemonium in the poker world, with no word about when, or if, players would be seeing the money in their poker accounts again. And Toronto suddenly became a life-saving destination.
“People started weighing their options…a lot of the online grinders went back to their regular real lives, got real jobs, and stopped playing poker. And the rest had to move somewhere in order to ply their trade,” said Tessaro. As a well-known name in the poker industry who was also based in Toronto, he was instantly flooded with requests from friends to help them make the move, and fast. “It was a crazy situation.”
Canada was and continues to be an obvious choice for many poker players urgently needing to cross borders, with its geographical and cultural proximity to the United States. Within Canada, there are two major communities of expatriated online poker players: Vancouver, and Toronto. Shortly after Black Friday, Mazin turned 21 and traveled to Las Vegas to play in a live poker tournament, then made the trip to Toronto to meet a friend already living on Brunel Court, right beside the Rogers Centre.
“I really liked Toronto, but for me, it was an experience because I’ve never really lived in a big city of any sort. Just to be able to walk out the door and walk to anything I could think of was awesome to me. We didn’t have a car or anything, but you didn’t need one,” Mazin said. He and his friends were comparatively lucky: because they had been using PokerStars, they wound up getting their money back in a matter of weeks. On the one year anniversary of Black Friday, Full Tilt Poker still owed its users $300 million, and Absolute Poker/UltimateBet owed $60 million. (Full Tilt Poker was eventually declared a “Ponzi-style scheme, and was bought by PokerStars, which had its charges dropped.)
As a 20-something with no commitments and a clear schedule, Mazin decided to seize the opportunity and see more of the world. Since spending July and August in Toronto in 2011, he relocated to Costa Rica, and again, about a month ago, to Vancouver. “There aren’t a lot of professions you can have at 22 where you can be anywhere in the world, as long as it’s not the States, and if you have your laptop with you you can make a decent living,” he said.
It’s typical for online poker players to move around a lot, according to Kristin Wilson, founder of Poker Refugees, a service that facilitates relocation for online poker players, which officially launched in August 2011. Since then, Wilson has moved 230 players, including Mazin, everywhere from Canada to Panama to Malta. In the couple of years since Black Friday happened, she has noticed a “snowbird” trend, where players will head south for the winter and then back north for summer.
Wilson says she has moved about 20 clients to Toronto, but suspects that number is low because many are able to make the jump without her help. Take Dan Smith for example, a Maryland native who got his start online and was ranked the number one poker player in the world in 2012. He’s now living on Queen West, and even as the U.S. gets closer and closer to re-establishing online poker gambling, he’d be hesitant to leave.
“I’m incredibly happy in Toronto. Even if poker came back, I’d still enjoy spending lots of time here…I have a bunch of friends here. It’s a bit expensive, but besides that I’m really happy with everything that Toronto has to offer,” Smith said. Mazin is also in no rush to return to the States, though he visits about every four months, and says he’s open to being in Toronto again.
Toronto’s community of expatriated online poker players mostly remains quiet in the press, since many would prefer to remain anonymous for tax or immigration purposes.