am i really supposed to fold 6's here.......

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

pjr54 wrote: I agree with your play, you just had extremely bad luck, sucks when it happens to you.

fin2head wrote: I agree with the play assuming you are in late position. Marginal play in Mid, and taking chances in Early position. There is always the chance for higher hiand than pair of 6's. Ive seen AA killed hundreds of times with smaller hole cards against it. What would your friends say if your sixes turned into a fullhouse or trips. Probably say lucky suck out, dont worry about them its your hand play it.

Poker Orifice wrote: Not only are you shortstacked but you have less than 3 'M'. 6-6 is a definite shove from mid. position even,.. you're counting on still having some fold equity here so a shove is the play without a doubt.
Just unlucky from sb vs. bb.
On a reasonably tight final table (with decent players), 8-To is actually considered the lowest value of hand that you'd be wanting to make the allin shove with while in the 'Red Zone' (less than 5 'M',... 'M' being the total cost in chips for one orbit (ie. sb + bb + antes)).
I really don't think shoving 6-6 from mid. is a 'marginal' play at all. What kind of hand would one be waiting for in the Red Zone??... would you wait till your stack is so small that you no longer have any fold equity😟 This is a rookie-ish play by someone not overly familiar with final table play.
GL next time,.. .shit happens.

Poker Orifice wrote: Oops.. I read this wrong... I thought you said you had 100K left in your stack. Even then it'd be a push for sure!! With less than one bigblind??... damn.. of course it's a shove from any position😡😡!!

Question,.. why did you let yourself get down as low as that in the first place? Unless it was from getting called while shoving and just barely having other player outchipped, one should never let themselves get below 3M. When you're down that low (even under 5M) it's an auto-shove and with hands far weaker than a low pocket pair.
For tips on this kind of play I strongly recommend reading Harrington On Holdem Vol. 2 and pay particular attention to 'inflection points' and 'mulitple inflection points'.
GL!!

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

Poker Orifice wrote: Oops.. I read this wrong... I thought you said you had 100K left in your stack. Even then it'd be a push for sure!! With less than one bigblind??... damn.. of course it's a shove from any position😡😡!!

Question,.. why did you let yourself get down as low as that in the first place? Unless it was from getting called while shoving and just barely having other player outchipped, one should never let themselves get below 3M. When you're down that low (even under 5M) it's an auto-shove and with hands far weaker than a low pocket pair.
For tips on this kind of play I strongly recommend reading Harrington On Holdem Vol. 2 and pay particular attention to 'inflection points' and 'mulitple inflection points'.
GL!!

tashie wrote: I make the final table in a 100K tourny. i have 14K in chips im the short stack there are 8 people left. blinds are 8 and 16 thousand, there is almost 30K in the pot before the flop, it folds around to me i have 66 against the BB i push he calls he flips over AA. i go out 8th. and get reemed by my friends for pushing. do you thing that was the right play?

FlowJoe wrote: Play was fine, just bad timing and luck. Better luck next draw!
Peace,
FLOW